Het HondenForum

Mijn vriend houdt niet van rauwe vis dus een zoute haring eet hij niet
Hij houdt niet van rood vlees dus geen biefstuk en filet american
Met de sex is niets mis
Het lijkt mij te ver gezocht dat honden die alleen brokken eten geen pups kunnen voort brengen

Voor Drijver:

Dit gaat over de teef......de rest zal ik proberen op te zoeken voor je.



Care of the Brood bitch

My half century of veterinary medicine work has revealed to me the appalling amount of canine disease prevalent today in all parts of the world. Nearly 50 per cent of such disease is hereditary and will require drastic and long-term measures wholly to breed-out from the various strains in which it is manifest. But the other 50 per cent is readily preventable and curable by promptly and wholeheartedly adopting Natural Rearing (NR) rules.

The dog is a most simple animal to keep in good health. It has not the complicated digestive system of the human being, for instance, which makes health maintenance or disease cure such a far more involved and longterm business; any child can keep a dog in great health; and yet – because unnatural rearing methods are the rule – the amount of canine disease prevalent in the civilized world today is a horrible thought. To comprehend present-day canine disease, one has only to read through modern veterinary medical textbooks and to study the long lists of ailments which afflict a species of animal, whose anatomy and way of life should by rights enable it to be the healthiest of all domestic animals. Such unpleasant reading must give one reason for thought.

I have written the puppy-rearing section to ensure that all puppies should be given the chance of enjoying their rightful inheritance of good health. When all puppies are reared by such methods, canine disease will positively disappear within a very few generations of NR stock. Such has been my own experience, and the experience of leading breeders in England and overseas. The words of Mrs Wingfield Digby – pioneer Keeshond breeder and owner of the famous Van Zaadam Keeshonds in England – are apt. Writing of NR stock, she says: ‘Never before have I seen such forward and intelligent puppies. It is as if they felt extra well.’

The International hounds expert and author of canine books, Herr P.M.C. Toepel of Holland, wrote about the first NR Afghans he ever saw, two black Afghan male pups at a championship show in England. They so attracted his attention that he made enquiries and was told they were raised by a ‘new’ method (it must have been in the early 1930s).
Herr Toepel was greatly impressed by the unusual vitality of the Afghan pups and gave them both high awards. They were from the first NR litter I ever raised.

The care of the in-whelp bitch is almost totally neglected in most dog-breeding establishments. The bitch is merely mated and then expected to produce her litter at the end of the nine-weeks’ period; no changes in diet or general treatment have been followed at all. In the rare cases when the in-whelp bitch is singled out for special attention, the treatment is generally of a most unnatural nature. There is usually overfeeding, resulting in heavy, inactive puppies, which cause whelping difficulties. Dosage with chemical calcium is supposed to ‘grow’ strong bone, but in fact acts as a kidney irritant and causes unnatural brittleness of the bony structure of the body (also causes rigidity of the bone parts of the litter in embryo, thus making further whelping difficulties).

Such neglect of the in-whelp bitch is remarkable when it must be appreciated that the health of the forthcoming litter is much affected by the dam throughout the nine-weeks’ in-whelp period. In actual fact, the health of a litter of puppies is 50 per cent dependent on prenatal care and diet.

The Arabs say, concerning their famous Arabian horses, that the stallion gives type to the foals, the mare gives health. They pay endless attention to the health of their brood mares. The same care is necessary for the brood bitch from puppyhood, if she is to produce when adult a litter truly healthy and capable of improving the health standard of the breed.

Dr G.T. Wrench, in his important book concerning that natural-living race of people, the Hunza tribe of the Indian mountains, goes even further than my statement concerning the effect of prenatal health on the offspring. He states: ‘Unless the mother is healthy and carries healthy blood to her conception, the wholeness of health cannot be attained.’ And yet how many bitches are mated year after year when in a state of actual disease: sufferers of skin diseases, kidney diseases, obesity, glandular ailments, and many other subhealth conditions? No wonder that such bitches prove barren, or whelp litters which fade away at birth or are carried off by one or another of the so-called epidemic diseases shortly after weaning, especially the modern parvovirus. Or if litters bred from unhealthy stock do survive, such stock is malformed with ‘shelly’ bone, bent, rickety limbs and sparse hair, or very subject to worm infestation, or are constant sufferers from one or more of the canine ailments which have long been looked upon as being the normal lot of the canine race.

Appreciating that good bone formation, nerve structure, and hair growth are dependent upon the blood of the dam during the all-important nine weeks of growth in the womb, it is understandable that in any book concerned with puppy rearing, a chapter on care of the in-whelp bitch is essential.

As for the stud dog, good health should again be an essential when making a choice of sire, for through the stud dog, just as with the brood bitch, hereditary ailments can enter and dominate the future lives of the unborn puppies.

The mange-type of skin disease prevalent in many strains of chows and dachshunds; chorea in cillies and terriers; kidney disease in Scottish terriers; hind-quarters paralysis in dachshunds and Pekinese; hip disease (hip dysplasia) in Alsatians, Labradors, and Samoyeds; slipped stifle joint in King Charles spaniels and poodles; epileptic fits in Kerry blues; deafness in bull terriers, juvenile blindness in Afghans, and middle-aged blindness in Border collies – these are but a few examples to be found of hereditary diseases in the hitherto healthy canine race; and perhaps the miniature and toy poodles are the worst of all examples of man’s unnatural rearing methods, suffering as they do from such inherited ailments as toothlessness, deformed inner ears, and blindness. Then there are among many breeds general epilepsy, chronic skin diseases, heart diseases, diabetes, and so on, and latterly there is widespread cancer, all greatly established by vaccinations from stock made artificially diseased in laboratories.

Such ailments can now be bred out only with infinite patience and trouble.
As Miss Peggy E. Brown, of Harrogate, who studied agriculture at Reading University, writes:

'Without a doubt it is this everlasting breeding for show points at the expense of all else that is the cause of all the degeneration in canine health. If the things that matter, principally good health, are never bred for, they are bound to get lost. It only needs one champion dog to be popular at stud and yet suffering with some serious hereditary ailment, and in no time it will spread right through a breed. Just look how wonderful are the Border collies – bred for stamina, intelligence, etc, yet never for looks to a Show Standard, nor are they inoculated; yet, despite no Show Standard, they are easily recognizable as a breed, in type. They are not wiped out by modern disease, and they get the roughest, but reasonably nourishing, food, from poultry and pig meal to milk. With some raw meat also, they would become superb. Nothing beyond their reach.'

These collies do get a limited amount of meat at certain seasons, dead lambs, carcasses of dead sheep, also entrails of rabbits. Some farmers have a superstitious belief against feeding meat to collies in case they turn ‘killers’. But I have been much with Border collies and have seen them dig up and eat, or salvage from rivers, sheep carcasses. However, I note sadly that Peggy Brown’s praise of the healthy Border collie (and I too know the breed well on the moorlands of the Pennine Hills, in northern England) was written for the second edition of my Canine Herbal, in 1963, and as I revise this sixth edition in late 1990, the health on this stalwart breed has declined like most of the other breeds, influenced in this case by farm foods having lost their wholesome naturalness and become largely shop-bought and devitalized.

In a recent BBC ‘News from Wales’ programme, it was stated that the working collie does not get just treatment and that, although its daily work saves the farmer hundreds of pounds in labour weekly, the collie is unlikely to have 5 pounds spared towards the purchase of good food weekly in reward for such important work. There is now widespread inherited eay disease in Border collies, ending in total blindness, unbearably tragic in a working breed whose efficiency much depends on keen sight.

It is a logical consideration, therefore, that the health of a stud dog should be carefully considered when making a selection for breeding; it is of equal importance (of greater importance in my opinion) with show points. Anyway, show merit is largely dependent on good bone formation, hair growth, true movement, all of which are, in turn, largely dependent on sound health.
In most breeds (the dog being a carnivorous animal) good strong jaw formation is a desirable show point; growth of jaw is largely determined by good rearing.

In addition to ensuring that a bitch is in the highest possible state of health at the time of mating, the period of the year at which the litter will be born should also be taken into consideration. Spring litters are natural, winter litters unnatural. It is noticeable that newly imported breeds, which have come from lands where they have been allowed to lead a natural, often semi-wild, life, seldom come on heat more than once a year. The females of that hardy wild animal, the jackal, closely related to the dog family (indeed they will mate with dogs), come into season only once a year. They mate for life and remain entirely loyal to one mate.
In dog breeding, bitches should be allowed to mate with dogs for which they show preference. They should never be forced to mate with a disliked dog merely because that dog has good blood lines.

Horse breeders wisely place a far higher value on spring-born foals. It is the opinion of the horse world that winter-born foals never attain the stamina of the spring-born. The milk-feeding question here plays a part. In the spring when cattle are grazing on the new grass, the milk is far better in every way than winter milk. Indeed, winter milk from cows or goats is not a suitable puppy-weaning food at all.

Menstruation, or ‘on heat’, is also a partial cleansing of the body. The reproductive organs are areas of the body which frequently become very toxin laden in wrongly reared animals. The on-heat period of a helathy bitch is short and there is no evil-smelling discharge whatsoever. In such cases it is purely an outflow of the organs of reproduction in preparation for mating and subsequent birth; there is only a short cleansing process. Feed the bitch on a lighter diet than usual when on heat. Give less meat. Give the special female herbs which will also be used if she is mated and thus made in-whelp. The best-known female herbs are wild raspberry leaves, chamomile, feverfew, elder flower, rose hips, artemesia (southernwood).

Hoofdstuk uit The complete herbal handbook for the dog and cat
van Juliette de Baïracly Levy

Marjoleine schreef:

Drijver schreef:En dit vind ik ook wel heel wijs geschreven. Ik kan me hier wel voor een groot deel in vinden ja.

Yep.

Daarom moet je ze lekker zelf laten aanrotzooien vind ik.
Als ze elkaar niet motten heeft dat ook een reden volgens mij.

Maar ja, wij mensen moeten zonodig alles regelen, he.
Zelf kunnen we ook amper zonder kunst- en vliegwerk voorbestaan, dat moet de rest van de wereld dan blijkbaar ook.

Ook heel wijs geschreven
Maar ja, zo is het in feite wel...

@SandraH: je bent een engel!

Ik pak een paar quotes van Billinghurst Grow your pup with bones. Als je geïnteresseerd bent in de rest van dit verhaal en nog veel meer over verantwoord fokbeleid in relatie tot voeding, dan kun je op mijn forum terecht.

· Essential fatty acids are a vital part of every cell membrane in every cell in a dog’s body. That is why essential fatty acids must be present in the diet to ensure that both sperm cells and egg cells are normal and healthy. These cells of reporduction, particularly the sperm, consist largely of cell membranes.

· Vitamin A plays a vital role in producing large numbers of perfectly formed healthy active sperm.

In the male dog, vitamin C is required in high concentrations in seminal fluid to protect the sperm from the harmful effects of oxidation. If it is not present in adequate amounts, failure to conceive can be the net result.

The lack of folic acid causes major problems in breeding dogs. In males it is vital for sperm formation. In females folic acid is absolutely vital for the proper development of the foetus. Insufficient can result in abortions, malformed pups, retarded pups, or dead pups. Yes, you read that right. Folic acid is one of those nutrients which is almost non-existent in proecessed foods whereas the BARF diet supplies it in abundance. The presence of folid acid is one of the many reasons breeding dogs fed the BARF way have been quietly reproducing without problems for years. The lack of folic acid is one of the many reasons why dogs and bitches on the commercial programme have had numerous problems for years.

This nutrient which is found in abundance in egg yolks – as part of the sulphur containing amino acid methionine – and also in all unrefined oils in small amounts including flax seed oil, forms part of all cell membranes, including of course the sperm and the egg. It requires the presence of vitamin B12, Folacin and essential fatty acids before it can become part of these membranes.

* Zinc is the nutrient which ensures that your male dog is fertile. It is why human fathers to be are urges to eat lots of oysters which are a rich source of zinc. The zinc will not only help with the sex drive, it also ensures there are plenty of healthy sperm. As mentioned earlier in this chapter...

...The ultimate recipe for male dog infertility

Is a lifetime diet of dry dog foods plus massive calcium supplements...

This very common method of raising dogs has been shown to have a directly damaging effect on male fertility. The zinc deficiency such a diet produces results in testicular degeneration, poor sperm production and a lack of motility in the sperm.

The infertility caused by these diets is not due to a complete lack of zinc in the food. The zinc IS there.
The problem is, your dog cannot absorb it.

This inability to absorb the zinc which is present is due to the massively excessive calcium levels in most dry dog foods, and the very high cereal levels, with their phytic acid. The calcium and the phytic acid both attach themselves to metals such as zinc and chromium, selenium and iron. They tie these metals up, making them unavailable to our dogs.
It gets worse. Many dog breeders and owners, particularly those with the larger breeds, compound this problem by adding even more calcium to their dogs’ diets.

The larger breeds are the ones most likely to be fed this almost exclusive diet of dry food and calcium supplements as they grow.

Even if that zinc deficient diet had all the necessary essential fatty acids, the high quality protein and the missing vitamins added to it, the lack of zinc would still result in a complete and irreversible lack of sperm production in any dog raised on it.

Drijver schreef:@SandraH: je bent een engel!

Dat weet ik. Dank je voor de bevestiging.

SandraH schreef:

Drijver schreef:@SandraH: je bent een engel!

Dat weet ik. Dank je voor de bevestiging.

You´re welcome

Enne, ik heb me aangemeld

...The ulitmate recipe for male dog infertility

Is a lifetime diet of dry dog foods plus massive calcium supplements...

......

Ik vind het nogal wat om te stellen dat het bewezen is.
Bij mensen is een dergelijke grote invloed niet bewezen, bij honden wel?

Niet dat ik het niet geloof, hoor, maar bewezen? Hoe dan? Ik zie geen bewijs van oorzakelijke verbanden.

Drijver schreef:

SandraH schreef:

Drijver schreef:@SandraH: je bent een engel!

Dat weet ik. Dank je voor de bevestiging.

You´re welcome

Enne, ik heb me aangemeld

Leuk. Ik heb je geactiveerd.

Marjoleine schreef:

...The ulitmate recipe for male dog infertility

Is a lifetime diet of dry dog foods plus massive calcium supplements...

......

Ik vind het nogal wat om te stellen dat het bewezen is.
Bij mensen is een dergelijke grote invloed niet bewezen, bij honden wel?

Niet dat ik het niet geloof, hoor, maar bewezen? Hoe dan? Ik zie geen bewijs van oorzakelijke verbanden.

Ik ga me niet bezig houden met een vergelijk naar hoe men dat bij mensen heeft vastgesteld, want je wilt niet weten wat ook in onze menselijke voeding verwerkt zit aan zaken die niet in een gezonde voeding thuis horen. Laat staan dat men onderzoeken gaat bekend maken waarbij massa's verliezen op gemaakt kunnen worden door de levensmiddelenindustrie. Zo gek is de 'vakman' niet.

En dan 'bewezen'? Er zijn meer publicaties van andere wetenschappers in virologie en nutriton van eenzelfde strekking. Wie weet wat het eerste rauw versus brokkenonderzoek van een dierenarts in Nederland aan 'wetenschappelijke bewijzen' op gaat leveren. Totaal andere theorie, maar misschien krijg je daar in juni wel keiharde cijfers van te lezen........of niet natuurlijk...we wachten het rustig af.